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# Part of the ‘aqeedah (belief) of Ahl as-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa‘ah is to believe that Allah, may He be exalted, rose above His Throne (in a manner that befits His Majesty); His Throne is above His heavens; and He, may He be glorified, is not encompassed by any of His creation. 
Please see the answer to question no. 124469
Secondly: 
The Throne is created; it did not exist then it existed, and it is the greatest of all created things. 
Ibn Hazm (may Allah have mercy on him) said, as was narrated from him in Maraatib al-Ijmaa‘: 
(The scholars) are unanimously agreed that Allah is One and has no partner or associate, and He is the creator of all things other than Himself; and that He, may He be exalted, was One, and there was nothing besides Him with Him. Then He created all things as He willed. And (the scholars) are unanimously agreed that the soul is created, the Throne is created, the entire universe is created. 
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him) said, in his commentary on that: 
With regard to the unanimous agreement of the early generations and Ahl as-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa‘ah that Allah alone is the Creator of all things, this is true.
End quote from Naqd Maraatib al-Ijmaa‘ (303). 
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him) also said: 
The Throne is created. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “and He is the Lord of the Mighty Throne” [at-Tawbah 9:129]. He is the Creator of all things, the Throne and everything else, and the Lord of all things, the Throne and everything else. End quote.
Majmoo‘ al-Fataawa (18/214) 
Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allah have mercy on him) said: 
The Throne is a great creation; no one knows its size except Allah. End quote.
Majmoo‘ Fataawa wa Rasaa’il Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (7/287) 
If anyone claims that any of Ahl as-Sunnah, or those whom they call Wahhabis, says that the Throne existed from eternity and was not created, and that it is eternal like the Creator, may He be glorified, he has fabricated a lie and is claiming something false. This is the way of many of the followers of innovation who seek to undermine Ahl as-Sunnah and falsely accuse them of falsehood. It may be said to these people: “Produce your proof if you are truthful” [al-Baqarah 2:111]. So produce a single letter of the words of Ahl as-Sunnah to suggest that the Throne is eternal like Allah and was always with Him, may He be glorified! 
Thirdly: 
The majority of scholars are of the view that the Throne was the first thing to be created. Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allah have mercy on him) said: 
The first thing that Allah created of the things that are known to us was the Throne, and He rose over it (in a manner that befits His Majesty) after He had created the heavens, as Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): “And He it is Who has created the heavens and the earth in six Days and His Throne was on the water, that He might try you, which of you is the best in deeds” [Hood 11:7].
End quote from Fataawa wa Rasaa’il al-‘Uthaymeen (1/62) 
Please see also the answer to question no. 145809. 
Fourthly: 
Al-Bukhaari (7418) narrated from ‘Imraan ibn Husayn (may Allah be pleased with him) that some people from Yemen asked the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) about how the matter was from the very beginning. He said: “There was Allah and nothing existed before Him, and His Throne was on the water. Then He created the heavens and the earth, and He wrote in all things in al-Lawh al-Mahfooz.” 
According to another report (3191) he said: “There was Allah and nothing existed except Him.” 
The Throne of the Most Gracious, may He be glorified, is part of His creation. He created it before He created the heavens and the earth and all that is therein. The hadith quoted above indicates that in the beginning there was nothing except Allah, may He be exalted: no Throne and no other created thing. Then He, may He be glorified, created the Throne, then He created all other created things. 
Please see the answers to questions no. 146779 and 184797. 
Fifthly: 
The deniers among the Jahamis and others who followed their path in denying the divine attributes added something odd to this hadith for which there is no basis. They said: “Allah was and there was nothing with Him, and He is now as He was then.” What they mean by that is to deny what the Lord, may He be exalted, has affirmed for Himself of rising and descending. 
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him) said: 
One of the most significant foundations on which these pantheists, heretics and claimants of true gnosis rely is what they claim to narrate from the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), according to which he said: “Allah was and there was nothing with Him, and He is now as He was then.” 
This additional material, namely the words “and He is now as He was then” are a lie and falsely attributed to the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). The

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